Questions on The MR vaccine drive in India

What is the drive about?
Its part of an WHO campaign to eradicate Measles and Rubella worldwide. The stated goal is to render India Measles and Rubella free by 2020. As part of the drive, they are launching a campaign to give the vaccine to all children throughout India, and over the next two years will introduce it into the UIP (Universal Immunization Program — which is the Govt recommended and sponsored vaccination routine in India). As part of the drive they are targetting all  children in Goa, Karnataka, Tamil Nadu and Pondicherry , in phase I , from Feb 7th to Feb 25th 2017

How dangerous are the diseases?
As dangerous as  eating rice or cereal. As a child growing up in 1970’s India I remember kids getting Measles and Mumps. Rubella incidentally was never a serious childhood threat, ever.  Measles did kill a lot of kids at the early part of the 20th century. But it ceased to be a threat long before vaccines were introduced (in 1964)

What is the risk of your child dying or getting a lifetime disability from Rubella?
Zilch. Zero. Nada.  शून्य ,பூஜ்யம்,  ಸೊನ್ನೆ

Does the vaccine offer lifetime protection against Rubella and Measles?
The official marketing drivel is that yes, it does. But the reality is that these vaccines are constantly given as boosters, and when they are marketed as boosters, the logic given is that the immunity wanes over time.   But in reality there is no guarantee that you will not get either of the diseases shortly after the vaccine. It is a live virus vaccine containing live strains of both Measles and Rubella. Variants of this vaccine have caused Measles and Rubella infections in the past. There is a one month window, within which if you come down with Rubella or Measles, you should definitely look at the vaccine as the cause. Not only does the vaccine not offer any realistic protection, they can actually cause the diseases, or worse.

Officially , who is at risk with Rubella?
Pregnant women, in their 1st trimester of pregnancy. That is it.

Do deaths from Measles occur?
Yes they do. Measles can be a deadly disease in the malnourished. Most deaths and complications from Measles are  poorly nourished children. These kids are as likely to die from the vaccine as from the measles, or from tuberculosis. What kills them is lack of nutrition, not Measles.

Can the vaccine cause Measles and/or Rubella?
Yes they can, and do. This is a live virus vaccine, containing strains of both Measles and Rubella.  The fact that media and the Govt and the vaccine manufacturers don’t talk about it does not mean the vaccine would start behaving differently. There have been measles outbreaks that have been traced to the strain of measles virus used in the vaccine. Getting infected with Rubella after the vaccine is also a very realistic scenario.

Points to Ponder.

  • Rubella is a contagious, generally mild viral infection that occurs most often in children and young adults.
  • Its sometimes called the 3-day measles , most people don’t even realize they are sick, the disease is *that* mild.
  • The only people who are really in danger are pregnant women. If pregnant women catch Rubella in the 1st 3 months of pregnancy, then they have an increased chance of delivering a child with CRS, a birth defect.

Also — What is the likelihood that a 9 month old baby girl will become pregnant? Impossible for boys either 9 month or 15 years to become pregnant. In short, they are targetting this vaccine on kids only because they can. There is simply no logical sense in making kids take this vaccine, assuming that the vaccine actually works.

What is the risk of this vaccine? — No one knows, really. This is a new combination so we will only know if we actually monitor every child that is getting the vaccine for a substantial period, say 6 months. Right now, the marketing campaign is trained to encourage uptake of the vaccine, not look at the effects of it. Any side effect will be pushed to the ‘coincidence’ category .


Dr Puliyel’s observation on Pentavalent Deaths in India

Dr Jacob Puliyel , Head of Paediatrics, St Stephen’s Hospital Delhi on the deaths following vaccination by the pentavalent in India (This comment was made in 2013 — number of post vaccinationn deaths have increased)
I know more about the deaths in India following Pentavalent vaccine and will base my response on that experience.
The autopsy reports suggest hypersensitivity reaction in many of the cases. There is no test that can be performed on the vials to look for the hypersensitivity reaction. We depend on the Brighton Classification of AEFI to confirm causation.
If a person gets a rash after taking some drug (medication), the way to be certain of a cause and effect relationship – is to give the same person the medicine again when he is well, and see if an identical rash develops. This is called a re-challenge to prove causation.
However if the reaction results in death, the person cannot be re-challenged again and the best we can say is that there was no other cause for the death and so it was probably related to drug administered. If 2 such deaths occur, it is called a ‘cluster’ by the WHO and it makes cause and effect more certain. In Kerala we have 15 deaths already. No alternate cause for the deaths could be identified in spite of a diligent investigation.
Lung edema is often seen on autopsy in hypersensitivity reactions.
Peter Flegg writes that ‘data emerging from some countries can be quite unreliable, and in the absence of good clinically verifiable information can be subject to wild speculation’. This disbelieving of data from developing countries somehow implies that a death in such countries counts for less than one in the West. Personally I think, many will find this rather offensive.
The older version of the Rotavirus vaccine was withdrawn in 1999 when it was known that it increased the incidence of intussusception by 1 per 10,000 kids vaccinated. Intussusception has a mortality rate of about 1 per 100 cases. With Pentavalent vaccine in Kerala in the first 6 months of 2012 there has been 1 death per 10,000 children vaccinated but it is business as usual with people saying ‘causation is not proven.’
In the investigation of deaths following Pentavalent vaccine in Sri Lanka the WHO committee could not find any alternate cause for the deaths. The deaths were also most probably due to the vaccine.
I will quote below from a letter of concern written to the Government of India about these deaths.
The deaths from Pentavalent are sporadic, meaning that thousands receive the vaccine with no reactions, but a few have died. All hypersensitivity reactions are like that – only a very few people react adversely. However when a drug is known to cause this form of fatal reactions, it is no longer permissible to give the medication to anyone without first testing to see if the person will react adversely. We do that with penicillin skin test for example, and doctors are liable for negligence if they administer penicillin without testing.
Pentavalent deaths have now been reported in different countries with use of Pentavalent vaccine from different manufacturers. It cannot therefore be explained on defects in some specific batch of the vaccine, nor can it be blamed on some programmatic error – because of incorrect storage or administration. There is no test available to identify the child who is going to react and die. We as public health experts will be liable for these deaths, if we fail to recognize this pattern of reactions seen with this vaccine.
It is important that we must make every one of these deaths count no matter where in the world they have occurred and no matter how economically poor the country is.

In Vaccines we trust!

This is a very short post. This simply features three youtube videos of testimonies in Congress. Please watch and understand on what ‘facts’ you are basing the health of your children!

Cigarettes and Nicotine are not addictive.

Mercury in Vaccines do not have the capacity to cause any harm

Has CDC/FDA actually conducted or facilicated any study on Autism and compared vaccinated and unvaccinated children?

Whitewashing Mercury , Aluminium and Formaldehyde

There was an article recently shared on social media , that justified Mercury and Aluminium in vaccines. The argument was that the Mercury found in vaccines was safe, and that fact has been proven time and again. And it also explained away the Aluminium by stating that the Alu salts helped the body in its fight against the microorganisms.

  • Mercury in vaccines has not been tested , ever

    1. The mercury limits have been set by estimates assuming that the consumption would be ingestion by adults. There are simply no tests that have been done to show or determine how much mercury is safe for a child. The reason for that is obvious. No parent would agree to allow their children to be part of such a test. So it is in the interests of the pharma companies, ably assisted by brainwashed doctors and a gullible and fearful public to repeatedly keep asserting that the mercury in the vaccines is safe.
    2. Aluminium is another potent neurotoxin. The article above is right in one aspect. The Aluminium makes the body generate antibodies to whatever’s packaged with the vaccine. The author *assumes* that since the vaccine goads the body to generate antibodies to the vaccine, the individual is protected against the target disease. This is one big theoretical assumption that most vaccine defenders assume as proven, but which unfortunately isn’t. There have been numerous instances where vaccinated individuals have come down with the target disease, sometimes immediately after a vaccine, and many times even after multiple boosters.
      Read this article about Aluminium toxicity
    3. Formaldehyde is a known human carcinogen.
      Its been known to cause brain cancer and leukaemia (blood cancer). I really don’t need to dwell too much on Formaldehyde.
    4. Highlight on Aluminium
      There is no known biological function for Aluminium. Meaning, there is no place for Al in our body. As long as we have kidneys working hard to remove Al, the damage is limited, but when you inject Aluminium in a young child and it makes it into the brain, how can you predict the consequences, especially when you have not measured it.

      This article talks well about the use of Aluminium as an adjuvant.

    5. Synergistic Toxicity
      Read this, for a primer on Synergistic Toxicity
      Basically when you combine two poisons , the damaging effects of those poisons *multiply*, not just *add up*. Meaning if you add 1unit of Mercury + 1 unit of Aluminium, the poisioning effect would be similar to what would happen if you ingest 30-40 units of Mercury.
    6. The summary of points that I am making is simple

      1. Mercury in Vaccine by itself can cause harm (Its untested for safety, remember)
      2. Aluminium in Vaccine by itself can cause harm (Its untested for safety, remember)
      3. The adjuvant action of Aluminium itself is based on the fact that the body can’t get rid of the Aluminium easily
      4. The fact is that the body generates extra antibodies in the presence of Aluminium immediately after a vaccine does not indicate immunity from the target disease
      5. Al has already been indicted in brain diseases like Alzheimers
      6. The synergistic toxicity of all the combined ingredients is difficult to predict

      It is no surprise that as the number of vaccines increase, the number of children injured and/or killed by vaccines also increase. Statistics don’t lie. And please be wary of ‘sciences’ that try to explain outcome by coincidences.

    A few facts about Dr Andrew Wakefield, and his paper

    1) Dr Andrew Wakefield *did not* publish a paper that claimed Vaccines caused autism. Read this over and over again. That is right, Dr Andrew Wakefield did not claim in a paper that vaccines caused Autism . Dr Andrew Wakefield has not admitted to falsifying anything. Where do people get their information from?
    2) In the now famous ‘paper’ – he (along with 12 other researchers) showed that the behaviour symptoms of Autistic children were linked to their gut disorders. A very simply way of putting this is that their intestines were causing them so much pain and discomfort that it severely and seriously affected their behaviour
    3) Dr Andrew Wakefield *did not* publish a paper that claimed Vaccines caused autism. Read this over and over again. That is right, Dr Andrew Wakefield did not claim in a paper that vaccines caused Autism . Dr Andrew Wakefield has not admitted to falsifying anything. Where do people get their information from?
    4) 12 autistic children were refered to the Royal Free hospital , Scotland via the referral mechanisms of the British medical system. A multi disciplinary team that was treating the children found a similarity among all the children — basically they demonstrated that the autistic (behaviour issues) symptoms were related to their gut problems. Andrew Wakefield’s team basically postulated that the children’s gut symptoms and ne
    urological symptoms were related.
    5) Dr Andrew Wakefield *did not* publish a paper that claimed Vaccines caused autism. Read this over and over again. That is right, Dr Andrew Wakefield did not claim in a paper that vaccines caused Autism . Dr Andrew Wakefield has not admitted to falsifying anything. Where do people get their information from?
    6) The team did not stop at postulating theories. Remember these kids were referred to the Royal Free. They treated the children for their intestinal disorders. What followed was nothing short of miraculous for the parents who actually were doing everything they could for their kids. The kids who had stopped developing showed slight improvements. In some of the cases, the non-verbal kids who had stopped speaking after the MMR vaccines, suddenly started saying a few words.
    7) Repeat Pt1 here
    8) Some of the children were found to be suffering from Chronic Measles infection — the measles had affected their nervous system. Remember they had been given the MMR vaccine – which is a vaccine containing three live viruses. Dr Wakefield wanted to establish if the virus was the wild Measles virus or the same strain that was present in the vaccine. Funding for the research was abruptly stopped since this was considered a needless ‘evangelical’ approach and a waste of funds
    9) Repeat #3 here
    10) Dr A.W noted that in 8 of the 12 children, the parents claimed that the children were diagnosed with Autism shortly after the MMR vaccine. When he looked for research on the subject , he realized that there wasn’t any (in fact, there still isn’t any). So he wanted to use this a *starting point* of an investigation. He mentioned this fact (the parents claim that the autism was diagnosed shortly after the MMR — 8 out of 12 was too much of a coincidence in the absence of real data you see.
    11)Dr AW did not claim a link betwween Autism and vaccines. That is right, Dr Andrew Wakefield did not claim in a paper that vaccines caused Autism . Dr Andrew Wakefield has not admitted to falsifying anything – ever. Listen to the man speaking if you can. He is undoubtably a hero of our times, sacrificed his career for a cause
    12) A press conference was organized to talk about the team’s findings. You see, the idea that the gut and behaviour symptoms of Autistic children was related was a major finding at that time, and the team at Royal Free was happy at the publicity and the pathbreaking nature of the study.
    13) At the press conference, Dr Wakefield was asked a few pointed questions.(Paraphrased here , with my own words)
    13.1) Do you believe the MMR vaccine caused the autism.
    A) Its not for me to say that. 8 of the parents have claimed that, and unfortunately we don’t know enough one way or the other. This aspect should be researched — in many cases in the past, its the parents observations that have been a starting point. And I believe in listening to parents. Both my parents are Doctors and we believe in listening to parents.
    13.2) Have you given your children the MMR vaccine
    A) Yes
    13.3) In the light of what you have seen as part of the research, would you be vaccinating your children with the MMR vaccine.
    A) Unfortunately no. But I would be separately vaccinating them with the Mumps, Rubella and the Measles vaccine at separate times. I think we should not be giving multiple vaccines at one go till we have fully researched the effects

    That is it. All hell broke loose after that. Of the 13 Doctors, 10 were successfully pressurized to recant their name from the study paper. 3 Doctors, Dr AW , Dr Simon Murch and Dr John Walker Smith – the head of Royal Free at the time of research, refused, standing by their findings, and denying any wrongdoings. They were all stripped of their positions at the Royal Free.
    Dr Wakefield moved to Texas, and continues to reside their, doing valuable independent research on Autism.
    The three Doctors above were subjected to a GMC enquiry and trial without being allowed to present their side of the story, not being allowed to call the parents as witnesses, and summary stripped of their licenses. Dr Smith and Dr Murch contested in a UK court (where normal court procedures are followed), and got the ruling overruled. Dr Wakefield has stopped clinical practice for years now. He’s currently suing Brian Deer the journalist who brought on the charges against the Doctors which led to the GMC ‘trial’

    William Egan , FDA testifying on vaccines to Congressman Dan Burton

    They say that Pictures say a thousand words.I would like to add to that and say, that videos sometime give away much more than pictures, and some of them are just priceless. Like this one. If you are a parent or know a parent who is considering vaccinating his/her child, I urge you to share this and bring it to the attention of parents.



    Congressman Dan Burton : Mr Egan, has Thimerosal ever been tested by a health agency?
    William Egan(WE) : (Clearly uncomfortable) Aaah…Its been early, in the world(slurring), those early tests that you know of, uh… that were done by, ahhhh… Eli Lily.
    CDB (Interrupting) : And when was that tested? It was done in 1929.
    WE : Yes
    CDB (Continuing) : And lets just follow up on that.In 1929, they tested this on 27 people who were dying of meningitis . And all of them died of meningitis. And so they said, there was no correlation between their deaths, and the mercury in the vaccines. That is the only test that has ever been done on Thimerosal, that I know of. Do you know any other?
    WE : No, in people , no. Except for accidental exposures over the…
    CDB (Again, interrupting) : So we have mercury that has been put into people’s bodies ,and has been since the thirties, and it has never been tested by our health agencies. And yet, you folks come here , and you testify that there is no ‘conclusive evidence’ (emphasises here) and the IOM(*) says they favor, – get this – they don’t say they are sure, they say they favor rejection of a causal relationship between Mercury and Autism and other neurological disorders. Mr Egan, can you tell me right now that that amount of Mercury injected into a baby will not hurt it?
    WE : Its.. You know, its, its , its impossible to (small pause) make those categorical statements that one hundred percent ….
    CDB (Interjecting) : Thats right, That’s what I want you to say.
    WE : (Incorrigible, almost inaudible) …..
    CDB : So it *is* possible, that the amounts of mercury, when injected, even in trace amounts, could damage a child neurologically. Right?
    WE : (Nodding, but still looking at the derrière of that imaginary person in front of him) I don’t think it has that capactity
    CDB : ( Laughing, more like a snortish laugh) Hnnn Hnnn Hnnn
    WE : I mean , you know, we can argue , but (looking at Dan burton with a smile for the 1st time)..(speech again drifts off)
    CDB : I know you think it is, but you cannot say categorically, can you?
    WE : Do I ? (Swallowing hard now) Do I have evidence for every single child ,for every p..possible dose, the answer is no (with emphasis)
    CDB : There you go. We’ve been after this for eight years now.Progress is being made but sometimes I feel like its, its pulling a wisdom tooth, where they get in your mouth with both feet and both hands and they are jerking that tooth off.Its so hard, so hard to get it moving

    At the end of this clip, in an interview Dan Burton says Why they have left it in vaccines, it is because they say it is such a minute amount that doesn’t hurt anybody. But that begs the question , the question is – Is it toxic or not? And Yes, it is! It should be out of everything that goes into the human body, and our health agencies, in my opinion have been derelict in their responsibilities in ensuring that Mercury goes out of everything that goes into the human body, especially vaccines.

    If you notice, during the hearing, William Egan is constantly staring at the base of the imaginary podium in front of him, and you can make out from his expression that he’s clearly uncomfortable, trying to defend something that can’t be defended.

    It is very difficult to miss after going through this video that Mercury has never been tested for safety. But if you have just heard the audio, you can’t make out the obvious discomfiture or the senior FDA official, who definitely would have loved to be somewhere else. As a parent , you have to ask yourself the question – How have these vaccines been tested for safety?

    For the uninitiated, every vaccine that does not contain a live virus or bacteria contains Thimerosal. Even the so called Thimerosal free vaccines could contain upto 3mcg of mercury. Vaccines that contain live virus or bacteria will not contain Mercury.